So, while laying in bed watching Vikings, I tabbed back in to see group chat posted of a man who IMed and harassed a girl from the group both in IMs and local, unsolicited. I was really amazed that this man had the audacity to attack her with such blatant ignorance.
The man IMed the girl with:
[22:36:04] Benjamin Curtiss: Share this with your “master”…..the only type of person that would want to collar another like a dog is nothing more then a sadistic fuck with low self esteem and makes others do his bidding. Also….thew one that is weak enough to be collared and be a slave is just as weak, if not more, because you suffer from low self esteem. You like being used, collared, dragged around, told what to do, USED…..you are both piles of crap for thinking this is normal, fun and what adults do. To me it’s the same thing that adults do to those with slow, abnormal o child-like mentalities. Please don’t bother to respond because I have muted you and what I see as a frustrated sexual fantasy gone wrong…..:-) Have a nice day! REMEMBER!….leashes are for dogs and other animals…..not people.
You see, and this wasn’t all, but first let us go over this ellipses-filled piece of trash bit by bit. In no way do I, as a submissive — key point here, since we only roleplay Gor, it isn’t truly for real (surprise), do “his bidding”. I am not a slave. If by, “doing his bidding” you mean doing things like, making him lunch, doing his laundry with mine, asking him if he needs a drink when I’m going and getting him one, then sure, I do my “Master’s” (That’s supposed to be capitalized there Benjamin, but you don’t really know how that goes huh) bidding. Out of roleplay, I don’t call my partner Master. I think a lot of people fail to realize that most things where a submissive would refer to someone as as Master/Mistress is effectively roleplay. It is a scene being played out within a relationship, it does not mean that the switch is on 100% of the time. We are all adults, with adult things to do. Depending on the desires of both mutual parties designates the degree of overflow between “vanilla” and their fetishes.
Now, on to the topic of Self Esteem, because this can get tricky so stick with me here Benjamin. All of us, literally, every single person on this planet – sans the sociopaths born from our ever growing narcissistic culture, have self esteem issues. Yeah Benjamin, even you do, even I do, even Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. No joke. It’s part of being human within this society. We are all bombarded with what is “normal” or “perfect”, roles not a single human being fits, because it’s all made up with the use of Photoshop. Trust me, I’m an artist, I know how Photoshop works and nothing you see these days in a magazine or a picture or a billboard is untouched. Nothing. Does this mean the person I call “Master” or “Daddy” or “Mister” has low self esteem? No. Does this mean I do? No! Does this mean that we both think we’re perfect and don’t struggle at times with self-acceptance? Of course not. Self Esteem plays a part in life for everyone and sure, it could definitely find itself as a huge player within the roles of Dominant or submissive but it does not , in any way, define either role. I’d also like to point out that typically sadists have less self esteem issues then masochists, so stringing those within the same sentence are a little problematic.
“Also, the one that is weak enough to be collar and be a slave is just as weak…” You really go on about self-esteem a lot there, Benjamin! I feel like you’re projecting a little bit! If your curious, I’m referencing your projection on to someone else your own insecurities, attacking them instead of handing your own problems, it’s almost like denial! It’s a really amazing defense mechanism. Sadly, the idea that someone who identifies as submissive is also weak is a common conclusion, which many people familiar with submissive’s and submission itself have to go to great lengths to try to clear up. Let me try to be pretty concise on this, while trying to be as brief as possible, since this already extremely long: I am in no way a weak person for entrusting someone else with my feelings, safety or emotions. I am a strong, independent individual who made my own choice out of personal thought and delegation to entrust someone else with them, whom I trust as much as I trust myself, knowing that there is a slim chance I might get hurt emotionally out of it but I still allow it, because I love them. I am a strong soul, aware of my own desires and choices and find safe haven and comfort in the thought that there is someone there to hold me when I am scared and when I show vulnerability — When I am truly human, and not a day warrior wading through the daily war with the world, media and social prejudices.
Perhaps I do, every so often, want to be “used” or told what to do, dragged around, spanked. Perhaps I do somehow identify as a masochist, because the pain makes me live in the moment and let go of all the anxiety, stress and fear that weighs me down every day and when we pull ourselves into our own little space in our own little world and I kneel at his feet and look up at him and he looks down and strokes my hair, I forget everything else for that moment in time. When he spanks me, I revel in the tingling nerves, the sensation shooting through my being and I’m alive. I’m living that moment. The pain I may feel inside, sucking my soul in to a black hole has just manifested itself on my skin and if my ass is red and marked and I try to sit down and I feel the sting, I feel a spark of clarity, that is constantly overshadowed by the burdens of life. I am not the first, nor last, that struggles with coping with life, nor am I to be shamed or crucified for my affinity with pain. Those who first accept how to feel pain are those who can truly feel happiness and love. Pain is part of the spectrum of sensation and accepting pain is a strength as a human being.
I’d like to think that many of us who categorize ourselves as Dominant, submissive, Sadistic, Masochistic, and any other like term are aware of our own intelligence. We don’t accept this thought process of power exchange without the knowledge of what we’re getting in to. It’s 2014, scientific studies and more are at our fingertips, absorbed through our brain at faster WPM read then any other generation (and only increasing with each).
When my “Master” places a collar around my neck and a leash affixed to it, even if it is just in Second Life or in our house in real life, it makes me smile. It makes me happy. Just because you think it’s wrong doesn’t make you right, either. If your only argument is that we are not dogs, then no, we are not of the Canidae Caninae Canis species, but we are of Hominidae Hominini Homo species as Homo Sapiens. We are an animal. Which means, if I can leash and collar another animal, I am just as capable to be collared and leashed. I accept my leash and collar consensually but the dog has no say, which one do you find worse when you think of it that way?
Sadly, he really wanted to berate and demean this girl. Apparently he had a female accompanying him, which only makes this whole situation even more mind-blowing.
[22:47:21] —: hes following me around and calling me a pooch in local
[22:47:32] —: but i havent replied to him because clearly thats what he wants
[22:40:19] Benjamin Curtiss: Hmmm…another coward.
[22:42:05] Benjamin Curtiss: Here poochie!….want a treat?…lol
[22:44:28] Benjamin Curtiss: I have doggie treats here!
[22:44:53] Benjamin Curtiss: Flea dip treatments for 10L….lol
Of course, I had to go see what this guy had to say. Quickly, however, I realized I was running in to a wall. Well, two of them. The woman he was entertaining was quick to defend him and his haughty way of speech is an apparent deflection, trying to avoid his own defensiveness.
I was probably an asshole, but frustration when you’re trying to talk at a wall is a hard thing to avoid.
[23:16:16] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: So I hear you like to harass women about topics you know nothing about.
[23:17:09] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Or, since you’re attempting to entertain a lady, are you going to ignore the fact that you were demeaning, harassing and insulting to a woman
[23:17:23] Persian Chevalier: He’s afk
[23:17:43] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Well he sure enjoyed messaging a girl who was only here for the exhibit to harass her about her own personal life.
[23:18:07] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: So if you don’t mind, I’ll stick around until he decides to crawl back out.
[23:18:33] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Since, if he’s going to insult people through his own ignorance, I can try my best to at least educate him.
[deleted some irrelevancy here while he is afk, see pastebin for unedited]
[23:22:32] Benjamin Curtiss: Back!….hi, Vayne! Oh….you have something to say? Hmmm…..not to me. Now, go back and try again. ….you have been commanded, directed, shown the proper way of how to talk to me and you have been measured, in as far as you can try to “correct me” with your small-ish vocabulary on matters you know nothing about. Why do I say that? Easy….you don’t know me….:-)
[23:22:50] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Calling a woman weak because she identifies as submissive is essentially insulting most women, because most women would identify as submissive when in love with a man, because within our evolution and development as a civilized species of animal, we have been put into our submissive little box by ignorant men, which I can be so bold enough to categorize you in.
[23:23:13] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: More-so, just because I identify as submissive does not in any way mean you can dictate to me how I should behave.
[23:23:25] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You earn submission, it comes with respect.
[23:23:37] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You have shown no respect nor understanding to other people and as such, you garner none from me.
[23:24:19] Persian Chevalier: Actually… being in love does not make you submissive, and to earn submission.. better would be to “earn” equality… My opinion.. so don’t clump all women as wanting to be submissive.
[23:24:27] Benjamin Curtiss: AND!…LOL…*too funny*….it was addressed to her and her master. He declined to answer….poor guy…:-( Not as much back bone as I thought he’d have. But, what can you expect out of a slave owner, right. Ok….you too are on mute because you too have bored me with your lip flapping and showing me absolutely no respect due to me as a man.
[23:24:32] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: My “small-ish” vocabulary vastly outnumbers your even more minuscule understanding to what is a Dominant/submissive, or even Sadist/Masochist relationship.
[23:24:38] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: This is where you’re incorrect.
[23:24:52] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I am not below the man I am submissive to, I am an equal player in our relationship.
[23:25:17] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You deserve no respect you ignorant buffoon.
[23:25:18] Persian Chevalier: then enjoy it.
[23:25:33] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I enjoy mine immensely, as does the woman he decided to IM and demean.
[23:25:35] Benjamin Curtiss: Are there any more? I welcome all new comers. I’ll not back down from my position, as you will not back down from yours.
[23:25:47] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: She was here on her own accord, just as I am, and he went out of his way to harass her.
[23:26:31] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: If he can’t handle someone coming here, actually speaking back to him, then all he truly is, is a little bitch boy playing alpha in hopes some big booted woman slaps him and pussy whips his face so he licks them.
[23:26:51] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Because that’s all he sounds like, trying to sound as haughty as he can.
[23:27:19] Persian Chevalier: he sent her an Im stating his opinion. 1 IM.. he was not “harrassing”.. They did not need to respond or even acknowlege him, which they did not.. He is entitled to his opinion as you are yours..
[23:27:21] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Persian, would you like to know the type of things the man you seem to want to defend enjoys IMing random girls while they’re minding their own business?
[23:27:25] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Actually, it was.
[23:27:27] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’ve seen it.
[23:27:46] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: IMing someone is not entitling someone to an opinion
[23:27:49] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Especially when he didn’t stop.
[23:28:01] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: He went out of his way to message someone and be rude.
[23:28:23] Persian Chevalier: I’ve seen it too… he stated his opinion. He hasn’t said anything to you yet here you are harassing him.. makes you no better than he.
[23:28:34] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: So, you can’t call me a coward now, and try to offer me doggy treats. What will you do?
[23:30:07] Persian Chevalier: Let it go Vayne… it wasn’t your business then, and it’s not your business now.
[23:30:23] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Seeing as you want to play “alpha dog”, I am not going to waste my time trying to discuss how based on total ignorance your “opinion” is. Your opinion was unsolicited, which deems it as harassment.
[23:30:37] Benjamin Curtiss: Vayne….go back and play with your lil friends. You being here is no more of a help to your position, or any other. Tell me about trust, faith, love, tenderness, caring, honesty, sex, mutual communicatioin and or how there is a greater bond with the slave trade and a master. To me all of those are squarely diminished as soon as you make another a piece of property. There is something significantly wrong with that twisted sense of logic and overall frustrated theory of a ‘relationship’….go back and plkay with the other like minded children now….:-)
[23:30:58] Persian Chevalier: so if your opinion Vayne.. which makes you the harrasing party now..
[23:31:11] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Actually.
[23:31:13] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: This is in local chat.
[23:31:25] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: If I IMed him
[23:31:31] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I would be harassing him unsolicited.
[23:31:42] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: The TOS is a hard thing to handle
[23:31:51] Persian Chevalier: you have your opinion which you’ve stated.. the matter is over.
[23:31:53] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: But I’ve done nothing but ask him why he felt the need to be arrogant and rude to someone.
[23:32:06] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Alas, an alpha dog needing a woman to do his arguing.
[23:32:11] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Truly, truly befitting.
[23:32:11] Benjamin Curtiss: Make a complete sentence! Not these hacked up 6 or 7 worded posts…ty.
[23:32:31] Persian Chevalier: it’s not your business.. if the other lady wanted to ask, then it’s her business.. she ignored him which was her prerogitive.
[23:32:56] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You know nothing in regards to D/s relationships, or even the basis a Sadist and a Masochist benefit each other in multiple and therapeutic ways.
[23:33:05] Benjamin Curtiss: LOL…..I had you on mute for a reason and not to have Persian be my “mouth piece”…LOL That is a silly position to argue from.
[23:33:08] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You spend your time in SL pretending to be this hard ass.
[23:33:10] Persian Chevalier: and I’m not defending him. I’m irritatated that you are here forcing your beliefs on me.
[23:33:14] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: So enjoy your time pretending
[23:33:24] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Instead of harassing women.
[23:33:34] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’m forcing no beliefs.
[23:33:37] Persian Chevalier: good bye Vayne.
[23:33:41] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Please, show me when have I?
[23:33:51] Persian Chevalier: you’re done your duty.. it’s over now.
[23:33:55] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’d love to see the context of which I’ve attempted to force any actual opinion down either of your throats.
[23:34:02] Benjamin Curtiss: I don’t pretend to be a “heard ass”. Persian can tell you….it’s a few and far bewtween event when I say anything to anyone about my personal views in SL.
[23:34:09] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I stated your opinion is based on obvious ignorance, of which neither of you seem to want to educate further upon.
[23:34:32] Persian Chevalier: you have no basis to say such a thing.. you have no idea what I do or do not know about the matter..
[23:34:40] Persian Chevalier: You’re just pushing out words that make no sense.
[23:34:42] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: That is your own mistake, not mine, and truly, ignorance is not bliss, for it is the surest and quickest path to bigotry and hate.
[23:34:45] Persian Chevalier: so let it go.
[23:35:48] Persian Chevalier: you’re being a bigot by telling us we’re wrong for not abiding by your lifestyle. so you’ve stated your opinion. now.. go away.
[23:35:54] Benjamin Curtiss: Ahhh…..ignorance. perfect way to start an objective opinion and win a case based on slavery. Which, you may have heard this before, is objectifying another human and debasing them with the thoughts and promise of a loving relationship. If you are not equals to another how can there be an equal relationship?
[23:36:00] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Enjoy your ignorance, swim in your hatred and fester within the confines of your own brains you’re starving of the one thing our species has mastered: the pursuit of knowledge.
[23:36:07] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’m not telling you to abide by my lifestyle!
[23:36:10] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Not once have I!
[23:36:30] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I simply stated that harassing people for something you know nothing of is rude.
[23:37:03] Benjamin Curtiss: I will swim and relish my ignorance! I will wear it proudly, like a coat….it’ll keep me warm against the others like yourself…:-)
[23:37:09] Persian Chevalier: all you can say is that you only have the knowlege of your lifestyle.. you don’t have any idea what knowledge I carry around so don’t preach to me….
[23:37:19] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: So why are you preaching to others?
[23:37:28] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Is there some reason you’re allowed to do it and not I?
[23:37:42] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Is there a reason you are able to IM a girl minding her own business and preach to her?
[23:37:42] Benjamin Curtiss: It wasn’t preaching on my part…..just my opinion. Is that the same thing?
[23:37:43] Persian Chevalier: I’ve simply told you to drop the matter and go away, but you keep preaching about our ignorance..
[23:37:52] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: No, Persian.
[23:38:00] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You are actually not involved, but you’ve made yourself involved.
[23:38:01] Persian Chevalier: Yes Vayne.. drop it
[23:38:08] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: It was more about his bigotry.
[23:38:28] Persian Chevalier: drop it Vayne.. it’s gone far enough.
[23:38:38] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I could care less about your little chorus, as unless you were also IMing a girl for no reason other then to be demeaning
[23:39:01] Persian Chevalier: this is tiresome Ben…
[23:39:08] Benjamin Curtiss: LOL….here’as the thing. If you bring YOUR personal lifestyle into SL and you parade it aroound…..some may take offence to it, as I do. So, if something is said, as you should expect it to be done, donm’t be offended. Just walk away, ok?
[23:39:08] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Though, with how you are defending him, I can only assume you were giggling like a little girl as he spouted his hatred and ignorance.
[23:39:32] Persian Chevalier: I wasn’t aware of it at the time…
[23:39:38] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Thinking it was so endearing and cute, that he is so manly, so strong to state his opinion, when in truth, all he is, is a coward, calling others a coward because he knows nothing of what he’s attacking.
[23:39:58] Persian Chevalier: but regardless.. he is entitled to his own opnion and he can state it to anyone he cares to… that’s all people’s right.
[23:40:12] Persian Chevalier: you, however, were not involved, but have put yourself into it.
[23:40:15] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: She wasn’t parading it around. She wasn’t shouting, “Hi, I am a part of a D/s relationship who also roleplays in a science fiction community that has female slaves”
[23:40:23] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: This exhibit is nearly pitch black.
[23:40:28] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You went out of your way to IM that girl.
[23:40:30] Persian Chevalier: simply to berate him for his ignorance.. so how does that make you better?
[23:41:03] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’ve seen that girls profile, and in no way does she parade it around, other then our typical “limits”, which isn’t just for Gor, but for all roleplay within Second Life.
[23:41:30] Persian Chevalier: go away Vayne.. you’re redundant
[23:41:40] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Enjoy your time, and again, find comfort in your declination of the acquisition of knowledge when it’s held before you.
[23:41:45] Benjamin Curtiss: Persian does not giggle…..she is a mature woman that knows how she wants her life to be in SL. She has opinions, is responsible and doesn’t let me tell her what to do. She’s a strong woman that doesn’t have to be collard or led about. Nor does she like to see other led about….it’s disgusting.
[23:41:51] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Her life to be in SL.
[23:41:54] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Thank you, key point.
[23:42:07] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Seeing as both of you only live for what you do in Second Life.
[23:42:47] Persian Chevalier: I hate seeing people search for arguments and eventually resort to insults when their arguments fail.
[23:42:51] Benjamin Curtiss: LMAO!…..if youo had ANY idea about how much we share of each others RL you would never have made that statement!
[23:42:52] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’m in a healthy relationship with a man who is Dominant towards me, in real life, and we roleplay within second life.
[23:42:53] Persian Chevalier: again, Vayne.. just go away.
[23:43:08] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I allow him to be Dominant, and I am just as strong as he for I choose to let him be.
[23:43:34] Benjamin Curtiss: Put him on a leash and make him follow you around for a month….
[23:43:35] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: You both are blind, I’m sure you both even call yourself good “Christians” too.
[23:43:46] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Enjoy it.
[23:43:54] Persian Chevalier: Christians don’t do what you’re doing right now..
[23:43:59] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I’m an atheist.
[23:44:01] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: So I don’t care.
[23:44:03] Persian Chevalier: of course you are..
[23:44:07] Persian Chevalier: fits.
[23:44:10] Persian Chevalier: good bye Vayne
[23:44:14] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: I don’t need to be coddled by the idea that there is “something more”.
[23:44:20] Benjamin Curtiss: Nope…..I never, ever said I was a good Christian, Muslim, Baptist or even an Atheist.
[23:44:22] Persian Chevalier: good bye Vayne
[23:44:27] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Oh, and for a bit more intelligence thrown your way
[23:44:31] Benjamin Curtiss: Never will make any sort of claim like that.
[23:44:59] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: Check out the scientific research studies in regards to the happiness of people who are atheist versus those who try to fit within the regulations of a religion.
[23:45:07] vɑуɳе ᴅɑʀкʍɑᴛᴛеʀ: The findings are substantial.
I left, there was no way anything would come from it, seeing as he was trying to project this stereotypical alpha man (aka STRONG RL GOREAN). I tabbed out to start penning all of this, only to tab back in to an IM! Sadly, he seemed to have gotten tired of SL and logged out.
[23:56:15] Benjamin Curtiss: Oh come on! You can’t just leave like that! You made a commenbt about religion that was completely unfounded with which you had no support for. Then, after making us try to feel insignificant, and you fialed, you left without ONCE proving your point at all. Very disappointing, actually. So, if there ever is a reason you want to try, to your folly, to convince me how your chosen lifestyle is superior, please do. I need something I can share with friends…lol Until then please stop! And why oh why didn’t one of these burly “masters” explain thhings to me? Oh right….because they know I’ll shoot them down too…:-) Enjoy!
[00:19:44] Verinne Ansar: I’m sorry, are you attempting to sound intelligent again? I made my comment in regards to religion by the way you treat other people, just as those who call themselves good “people of the faith” discriminate. If the analogy was lost on you, then that is not my problem.
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[00:21:01] Verinne Ansar: I need not try to prove how I life is superior, that is not my point nor goal. My way of life is what I chose as is yours. You don’t see me telling you how you live your life is wrong, hell, I didn’t even ask about it.
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In all, even now there are ridiculous misconceptions of the idea of D/s and those who find us who Roleplay within Gor as ignorant invalids, incapable of loving people as equals. When truly, we love and see everyone as a strong equal and within that sea of acceptance, we find the other piece of our heart, our ying to our yang, our spring to our winter. I find us as the most human of human, the most true to our selves and the strongest souls finding another strong soul to get through the life with.
For entirely unedited chat logs, please see the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/YR19dbrG
(I only edited it irrelevancy, like him trying to talk to some other girl).